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Citigroup vs. General Motors

by: Kathy

Sat Nov 22, 2008 at 15:47:50 PM EST


Citigroup is in trouble and Washington might step in and give them more financial aid from the bailout funds. They already received $25 billion in October.  

Why are we helping them and not GM? Robert Reich (Secretary of Labor under Clinton) has the answer - kind of.

So why save Citi and not GM? It's not at all clear. In fact, there may be more reason to do the reverse. GM has a far greater impact on jobs and communities. Add parts suppliers and their employees, and the number of middle-class and blue-collar jobs dependent on GM is many multiples that of Citi. And the potential social costs of GM's demise, or even major shrinkage, is much larger than Citi's -- including everything from unemployment insurance to lost tax revenues to families suddenly without health insurance to entire communities whose infrastructure and housing may become nearly worthless. I'm not arguing that GM should be bailed out; as I've noted elsewhere, GM's creditors, shareholders, executives, and workers should have to make substantial sacrifices before taxpayers should be expected to sacrifice as well.

Nonetheless, Citi is about to be bailed out while GM is allowed to languish.

It all boils down to perception. Reich says the Treasury and the Fed believe their job is to keep "the financial economy "sound", by which they mean keeping Wall Street's own investors and creditors reasonably happy."

What about GM?

GM is simply a big, clunky old manufacturing company... GM is just ... jobs and communities.

And people with families and mortgages and medical bills, but we must keep investors and creditors happy at all costs. Jobs be damned.

(Cross-posted at Stone Soup Musings.)

Kathy :: Citigroup vs. General Motors
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58 days to change (4.00 / 1)
This attitude needs to get on the plane back to Texas with Bush.

Party OVER for the fat cats.


except (4.00 / 2)
they'll have taken everything by then :(

[ Parent ]
We need better arguments (4.00 / 1)
1) Connecting the dots to the millions of jobs that will be lost.
2) How the failure of Detroit will hurt all the other auto jobs in the US.
3) The importance of the auto manufacturers (and heavy industry) to our national defense.

There are more.

The point is, there is an awful lot of ill-will across this country directed at the Big Three. In fact, the argument has to be driven to highlight the workers and throw management under the bus...because right now, they are all getting thrown in together.

A UAW worker suggested they should have gone to Washington with a huge caravan of cars from across the US to meet in Washington.

Right now, when the American public sees Detroit, they see rich execs who are getting rich and fat while running their companies into the ground.

When they look at Wall Street, they see their 401K plans going up in smoke.

Explain to the American people how it affects them personally, and don't bring up CAFE standards...


Not just rich execs (4.00 / 1)
The rest of the country also has the impression that UAW workers are a bunch of overpaid, lazy workers. I can't even read the comments people leave in newspapers anymore because they cause my blood pressure to shoot through the roof.

So you're right about the need for better arguments, and some of them need to clear up the misconceptions people have about the wages and benefits workers had prior to the last few contracts, the productivity gains they've consistently eked out, and also the fact that they had no say in what management chose to have them build.  


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The Republicans have spent (0.00 / 0)
four decades bad mouthing unions.

You and I both know unions are important, but making that the crux of the argument scratches that part of the brain that Republicans have spent so much time splashing with mud.

All the time, I might add, while the Democrats let them.

We need to treat this just like a political campaign.

Don't argue your opponents frame. Stay away from arguments that feed negative stereo types.

Figure out a way to tie in the problem with the auto industry in a manner that hits average Americans in the gut by reminding them of themselves.

If the UAW was smart, they would start running ads like the Obama 30 minute commercial that highlights real auto workers and all the industries that would be affected by their collapse and tie it into a story of the American worker...

Anything else will actually feed into a negative reaction from the American people, and that is who we need to convince.


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Good idea (0.00 / 0)
I like the idea of the UAW running ads.

What about tying in the idea that taxpayers can be assured of getting their money back by supporting our domestic car manufacturers and buying their products?

I also like the ideas Granholm and Levin have been pushing about the need to have our batteries developed here at home in order to be independent of foreign sources for our energy needs, and I think Levin also mentioned that every other nation in the world supports manufacturing except for us.  


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Yes (4.00 / 1)
and tie it to national security.

We need to lower our consumption of foreign oil, but we also need to secure our heavy industry, do we really want China building the equipment for our soldiers?

Fixing Detroit is a win-win on this front. It allows us to Green the auto industry, reduce America's consumption of foreign oil and provide a domestic source of these products.

That's a commercial I'd like to see run.


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